Yes and no? I think that having to punish bad people is his punishment. Because to do so, he would have to know all their evils. One would think that would mess up the mind. But also, he recruits evil folks as well. Remember, according to beliefs, he is building an army to try to make a comeback.
Definately food for thought, though!
@grim_truth - Actually, according to the “good book” he’s just an angel who asked too many questions. So running hell is punishment for questioning God.
You’re right. They’re not the most legitimate arguments. They look more like a snarky way to say “neener neener”.
@GodlessLiberal - But in the book of Revelation, it says that Satas was cast into the lake of fire, not to rule, but to be punished. In the book of Isiah, Lucifer wanted to basically overthrow God. He did more than just question him.
@Garistotle - I notice you love to be righteously indignant of my posts, without actually contributing anything to the conversation.
@GodlessLiberal – is there a conversation here, or another “let’s point and mock religion in general” bruhaha. Don’t get me wrong… I like your blog most of the time, but when you go the cheap shot route, then my responses will be equally cheap.
@Garistotle - Yes, but when my blog is NOT cheap, you never comment. I pander to my audience.
@GodlessLiberal – I still read though. I’d add input if I feel I have something to add (including the capability to comment right away..oft times my points are added before I get there). I suppose I get annoyed here since I expect more from you than others in these parts.
@Garistotle - Ahh, in that case I should inform you that you just come across as whiny. You “expect more” from me, but isn’t every person allowed to have moments of being extremely petty, whether it be in the case of religion with me or the case of sports teams and food for you?
@GodlessLiberal – the sad part is some people treat sports teams like religion. Ah well, can’t please ‘em all. At least you’re big enough to not block me over this. I know others are just THAT petty.
I do enjoy philosoraptor. Always makes good points. lol
personally, i don’t think any argument is illegitimate. if God exists, and Christianity really IS right, He should take seriously ANY reason why someone might not turn to Him for salvation.
Methinks thou hast tasted of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and hast stayed for a feast on it. (Philosoraptor is definitely the “serpent” before he was cursed to crawl on his belly for the rest of his days.)
So fun fact: #1 was actually a major point of contention during (if memory serves) the Renaissance. The idea of a ha-Satan who punished the wicked with a sort of license from God was thrown about a lot (along with arguments about whether not it would be OK to sympathize with such a figure.) Ultimately it was decided that the Devil was evil and not in line with some kind of divine command, but that if you weren’t right with God then He had no obligation to protect you from the Devil, either.
those questions prove that we can’t really follow the old teachings word for word. as time has changed, as should the teachings of a religion. any religion. the core of religion would and should stay the same but the approach and explanations and what accepted by the teachings should evolve according to time. human race evolves and so should everything else.
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Yes and no? I think that having to punish bad people is his punishment. Because to do so, he would have to know all their evils. One would think that would mess up the mind. But also, he recruits evil folks as well. Remember, according to beliefs, he is building an army to try to make a comeback.
Definately food for thought, though!
@grim_truth - Actually, according to the “good book” he’s just an angel who asked too many questions. So running hell is punishment for questioning God.
You’re right. They’re not the most legitimate arguments. They look more like a snarky way to say “neener neener”.
@GodlessLiberal - But in the book of Revelation, it says that Satas was cast into the lake of fire, not to rule, but to be punished. In the book of Isiah, Lucifer wanted to basically overthrow God. He did more than just question him.
@Garistotle - I notice you love to be righteously indignant of my posts, without actually contributing anything to the conversation.
@GodlessLiberal – is there a conversation here, or another “let’s point and mock religion in general” bruhaha. Don’t get me wrong… I like your blog most of the time, but when you go the cheap shot route, then my responses will be equally cheap.
@Garistotle - Yes, but when my blog is NOT cheap, you never comment. I pander to my audience.
@GodlessLiberal – I still read though. I’d add input if I feel I have something to add (including the capability to comment right away..oft times my points are added before I get there). I suppose I get annoyed here since I expect more from you than others in these parts.
@Garistotle - Ahh, in that case I should inform you that you just come across as whiny. You “expect more” from me, but isn’t every person allowed to have moments of being extremely petty, whether it be in the case of religion with me or the case of sports teams and food for you?
@GodlessLiberal – the sad part is some people treat sports teams like religion. Ah well, can’t please ‘em all. At least you’re big enough to not block me over this. I know others are just THAT petty.
I do enjoy philosoraptor. Always makes good points. lol
personally, i don’t think any argument is illegitimate. if God exists, and Christianity really IS right, He should take seriously ANY reason why someone might not turn to Him for salvation.
Methinks thou hast tasted of the tree of knowledge of good and evil and hast stayed for a feast on it. (Philosoraptor is definitely the “serpent” before he was cursed to crawl on his belly for the rest of his days.)
So fun fact: #1 was actually a major point of contention during (if memory serves) the Renaissance. The idea of a ha-Satan who punished the wicked with a sort of license from God was thrown about a lot (along with arguments about whether not it would be OK to sympathize with such a figure.) Ultimately it was decided that the Devil was evil and not in line with some kind of divine command, but that if you weren’t right with God then He had no obligation to protect you from the Devil, either.
those questions prove that we can’t really follow the old teachings word for word. as time has changed, as should the teachings of a religion. any religion. the core of religion would and should stay the same but the approach and explanations and what accepted by the teachings should evolve according to time. human race evolves and so should everything else.