Wednesday, 05 September 2012

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  • Unstoppable_Inner_Strength

    Yep. Once you replace "rape" and "pregnancy" with different terms, you can start to see their total disconnect from reality, common sense, and empathy.

    But that's nothing new, is it?

  • thegunslingergirl

    hahaha if only we could get them all to go on a "cruise"
  • FringeChristian@revelife

    Is this some sort of anti-gun analogy?
  • wildchildofthebluemoon

    LOVE IT!
  • HUMOR_ME_NOW

    I have never needed a life jacket. lol

    i think Obama and Romney may need one the way they are hurling verbal torpedoes at each other. lol
  • grim_truth

    what a great red herring!  Compare something that saves a life to something that ends a life.  Yeah, that makes sense (in some worlds, I guess)
  • TheSutraDude

    haha. funny. if we can't get life jackets banned make a law allowing big government to probe anyone wanting to use one. 
  • Doubledb

    This is trying to be smart but to me this is just dumb
  • agnophilo

    To be fair republicans did give some push-back from the "legitimate" remark, though I think one or two nutbags agreed with him.
  • Saridactyl

    @grim_truth - I wouldn't really call it red herring. Satire is more like it.
  • tendollar4ways

    @grim_truth - I didn't know you were Catholic? Your boy Ryan could use a dose of your Grim Truth cuz you are about the truth and all. I liked his 2:30 Marathon!!

  • grim_truth

    @Saridactyl - it's misleading and distracting from the issue.  Thus, a red herring.  Satire has to make sense.  It's not an equal comparison.  If it was, then it would be satire.

    @tendollar4ways - Ryan is not my boy and will not be getting my vote.  Nice strawman.
  • CanuckFascist

    Idiotic, comparing life-and-death with rape. Liberals are morons.
  • emily_shannon

    Swimming lessons would only encourage drowning. It's a violation of my rights to forcibly teach my kids about swimming. You might as well be teaching them how to drown.
  • Celestial_Teapot

    @grim_truth - "what a great red herring! Compare something that saves a life to something that ends a life. Yeah, that makes sense (in some worlds, I guess)"

    What the post clearly attacks is the logic of much of the pro-life arguments and sentiments. Calling the comparison a red herring doesn't show how it is one, and merely pointing to he differences in the subjections of comparisons doesn't dismiss the logical connections between the two.
  • Celestial_Teapot

    @CanuckFascist - Your disdain and your ideas would be clearer if you typed in complete and correctly punctuated sentences.
  • CanuckFascist

    @Celestial_Teapot - Sweetiepie, my English is PERFECT. Yours is not. Mwaaaaahhh
  • firetyger

    @Doubledb - When trying to compare two things that are not at all like each other...yeah. It does come across that way.
  • PPhilip

    Let's be more literal: Ban abortions in all cases no exceptions like if a woman's life is endangered, if the child would be a product of rape or incest.


    It sort of says Ban sex education, don't teach the use of condoms (because of course rapists never want to learn that usage), you can't use morning after pills nor is any other birth control allowed besides abstinence (which of course is useless for a woman who is being raped)
    The drowning parallel would be don't teach swiming, learning cpr and other lifesaving techniques people who drown were fated to die anyway by drowning. In otherwords turn your attention away from any deaths from drowning.
    Turning our hearts away from any exceptions for having an abortion is part of the campaign to overturn Roe Vs Wade and to push the idiotic position of life begins at conception.  However one would compare that position to that position that Children deserve the right to vote...When life begins is a bit complicated. Buddhists could claim that life never ends, it just get recycled and the soul migrates elsewhere.
  • theKisSilent

    @PPhilip - Apparently in Arizona life begins 2 weeks prior to conception. Women in Arizona are pregnant all the time. ;p
  • UTRow1

    @Celestial_Teapot - Grammar is a tool special interest groups use to enslave the government and its people.  
  • grim_truth

    @Celestial_Teapot - There is no logical connection between the two.  It compares something that saves lives with something that ends life.  It clearly distracts from the actual issue by doing so.  Thus, it is a red herring.  It paints a picture that everyone of a certain segment thinks the same, which is untrue.  Thus, it is also a strawman.  (though I guess it depends on what one thinks the "lifejackets" are.  One could take them as sex education, which would make a bit more sense, but at the bottom of the picture since it talks more of the "gift" and "legitimate" comments that have been made, it seems it is clearly more of an analogy for abortion.  Which makes the comparisons not even close)
  • UTRow1

    I'll translate it for the people have difficulty making the connections:

    "We should ban abortion and other forms of contraception [as well as the HPV vaccine], because they encourage sinful behavior. The only 100% effective way to prevent pregnancy is to refrain from sexual activity. And if by chance you find yourself struggling with pregnancy [read: rape, pregnancy that threatens the mother's life], no abortion procedures should be allowed to be administered. You got yourself into this mess, you deal with the consequences."

    Every ridiculous argument in the poster is a prominent pro-life argument or sentiment with the relevant words replaced. The poster is effective because it adequately demonstrates that an outright abortion ban (like an outright ban on life jackets) is an emotional and illogical approach to a real-world problem that directly and adversely affects the health of individuals. Both flotation devices and abortion procedures demonstrably save lives and improve the mental and physical health of many women who receive them. It also demonstrates how archaic religious principles (that are, ironically, arguably absent in the Bible) can cloud people's judgment and make them advocate for outrageous things regarding health issues.

    Of course the arguments are nonsensical. That's the point of the post. The source material (pro-life arguments) they are directly translated from are also nonsensical. Attempts to differentiate the applicability of the arguments to life jackets are also difficult given the misunderstanding of reproductive health that many conservatives have (e.g., abortions kill and/or hurts "babies", abortion isn't necessary to protect the health of women, controversial interpretations of the Bible are a sound bases of legal rights in America, etc.)
  • GodlessLiberal

    @UTRow1 - Can you hear my applause from here?
  • UTRow1

    @GodlessLiberal - It's being drowned out by all the cognitive dissonance in the comment section. But, I did notice that I got an erection for some reason. A common reaction to applause for me.

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