I honestly do not understand how this man can be getting nearly half the support of the country. Unless you are among the rich or super rich, nothing Romney has promised (vague as it has been) will be good for you. He's promised to do all these amazing things: 20% tax cuts across the board, an extra $2 trillion dollars to the military that it doesn't need nor has it asked for, a repeal of Obamacare while still keeping pretty much all its popular facets. And how is he going to do this? As Paul Ryan tells us, it would take too long to explain.
Of course, Mr. Ryan, if it would take too long to explain, you could always post it online for us to view, much like
President Obama has done. You may not agree with the President's budget, but you at least have to admit that he provides transparency about what he plans to do. Because frankly, I don't understand how he plans to provide for a damn thing he's promised while cutting $5 trillion in taxes and giving and extra $2 trillion to the military. Please, Governor Romney, let us know how you're going to balance the budget, provide a social safety net, and still cut $7 trillion dollars from our country's revenue.
U.S. budget as seen by Mitt Romney:
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It's unbelievable isn't it. Mitt's proposed 20% in tax cuts which he's all over the place with, baiting and switching, together with his promise to add trillions to the military budget which as you said the military says it does not need or want, will add $9 trillion to the deficit over 10 years. He says he will cut the deficit but refuses to say how other than to say he will cut funding to PBS which amounts to something like .01% of government spending. 28 "misleading" statements during the debate which, I'll say it, were lies. He claimed he never planned to cut taxes by 20% across the board but he's caught on tape numerous times saying just that over the past year. He lied about Obama cutting $716 billion from Medicare to pay for Obamacare. He knows that's not true. The reduction comes from ending Medicare waste and overcharging on the supply side so while saving the taxpayers money it takes nothing away from Medicare recipients.
Paul Ryan accidentally told the truth a couple of days ago when during an interview he said the President has not put restrictions on gun rights. In fact Obama has expanded gun rights by allowing gun owners to carry guns in national parks and on Amtrak. On a related note the NRA is back to fear mongering during an election year, saying again and falsely that Obama will take away peoples' guns. I think I know why. After Obama won in 2008 gun owners ran out and made record purchases of guns and ammo which was good for the NRA and dealers. The NRA is back to fear mongering probably in the hope that Obama will win reelection giving another boost to gun and ammo sales.
In Mitten's famous words, "just trust me on this one."
This election is Obama versus "The Shiny Mystery Box".
What could be inside?! A neo-conservative war hawk? A pro-gun control, pro-universal health care governor from Massachusetts? A pro-choice moderate? A pro-life right-winger? A respected businessman who cares about the working class? A corporate mercenary who destroyed thousands of jobs for personal gain?
It's so tempting! I MUST know what's in the box! I'll take the box, please! It's so shiny!
Nah, I'm just kidding. I'll take the candidate whose policies have created 46 straight months of job growth over the guy who changes his speculative plans every few weeks and refuses to divulge the specifics of his policies, even when pressed.
maybe the 50% are just concerned about the 8% unempoyment.
@TheTheologiansCafe - And what, in Romney's plan, could possibly make anyone think that Romney would do better than Obama? The fact that he's hoping to repeat the policies of George W Bush that got us into this mess in the first place?: Massive tax cuts for the rich, deregulating Wall Street further, and wasting vast amounts of money on the military that we don't need, all with no real plan to balance the budget while bragging about fiscal responsibility.
@GodlessLiberal - You forgot to tell Theotard that unemployment is no longer 8%. It actually went down. But, of course, propaganda bobbleheads like him don't care about facts. He's the worst broken record I've ever seen. EVERY FUCKING TIME he comments about politics he says the same damn thing. It's gotta suck being so mentally dull.
@TheTheologiansCafe - it's under 8%.
The latest trick of the Romney campaign is for Romney to flip flop and sound moderate, even liberal when speaking to the press he believes moderates will be listening to. Then someone from the Romney campaign jumps out and tells conservatives "Of course that is not what he meant." Or "He misspoke." It happened during and after the debate. During the debate Romney said his healthcare plan will protect people with preexisting conditions. Immediately after the debate someone from his campaign said he misspoke. The same has happened since, the latest being today or yesterday. Romney was asked if he would restrict abortion. Romney's answer was he is not aware of any legislation to restrict abortion and he has no plans of doing so. (In fact he supports the Ryan/Akin personage bill that would make abortion illegal or nearly illegal nationwide so he is aware of such legislation.) His campaign immediately hopped on a conservative website and wrote (paraphrasing) "Of course Mitt Romney is pro life."
They are hoping they can lie to moderates and get away with it.
This is only slightly related but I have to mention it because it was a killer comeback. Tammy Duckworth is running for tea party incumbent Joe Walsh's congressional seat. Walsh showed a photo of Duckworth shopping for a dress to wear in preparation for her upcoming speech at the Democratic National Convention. At the time the photo was taken Walsh had been marching in a local parade. During their recent debate the issue was brought up that she was buying a dress instead of marching in the parade. Duckworth acknowledged shopping for the dress then added the dress she's worn most of her adult life is one color...camouflage. Haha. Her career was in the military where she was a commissioned officer and a helicopter pilot. She was deployed to Iraq where she lost both of her legs in combat. She is now a Lieutenant Colonel in the Illinois National Guard and a fighter for other soldiers with severe combat wounds. The other backdrop for this is Walsh has been caught on tape several times ranting that she should stop talking about her military career.
Mitt Romney knows that if he sets the bar for recovery high enough, that Obama will fail to reach that mark. It is like a loan shark that raises the interest rate on loans that he makes, eventually the sucker cannot pay off his loan and suffer a penalty.
What guarantees can Mitt Romney give us that bipartisanship will work for him? If the Democrats win a majority of senate and congressional seats maybe Mitt Romney can work with that (however Obama for sure can work with democratic majority) Basically if the teaparty wants to work with Mitt Romney the bipartisan role looks good for Romney.
I am mad that the congress of the United States has been so disappointing. Romney's new etch a sketch character hopefully is the true Romney but with the lies and switches, that makes me hesitant to believe that is the true Romney.
@TheSutraDude - @In_Reason_I_Trust - @GodlessLiberal - I am talking about the average over the last 4 years. In fact, it is really 9% if you take his 4 year average. Here is the link: Link
President Bush was actually 5.2% even when you include the last 2 years where Democrats controlled the House and the Senate.
Maybe you have a better explanation. I was simply suggesting what the 50% may be thinking.
@TheTheologiansCafe - We could say the average annual family income is not $51k since the signing of the Declaration of Independence but that would also be totally out of context and perspective. What people are seeing is job losses of 800,000/month at the end of the Bush administration and the first few months of the Obama administration due to the economic crash. The Obama administration stopped the bleeding and turned the economy around with 40 months of job growth. Unemployment is now below 8% and lower than the day Obama took office. The Wall Street Journal analysis said last month it would be lower if not for republicans in Congress blocking the Obama jobs bill and the Wall Street Journal is traditionally not all that friendly toward democrats. It's owned by Rupert Murdoch. In fact if republicans in Congress had not blocked the bill unemployment statistics today would be at the same level as they were at the end of Reagan's first 4 years.
Romney's entire argument against the Obama economic plan is unemployment was still above 8% and Obama promised to get it below 8% by the end of his first term. Romney has now lost that singular argument. 4 years ago Obama told us if he didn't get unemployment below 8% by the end of his first term he didn't deserve a 2nd term. While in London for the Olympics Romney said during an interview if he paid more in taxes than what was required by law he would be unqualified to be President. Unemployment is below 8%. Romney paid more in taxes than he was required to pay according to the tax year he released last month so by their very own words one candidate is not disqualified from being President and it's not Romney.
During a much milder recession there was one thing Reagan did not have working against him. States did not fire teachers, firefighters and police as they have in this much deeper recession. The Reagan administration also quietly moved the military onto the count of employed for the first time, making employment figures look better.
There are other good economic indicators. Housing prices/property values are up and the housing market has stabilized. Consumer confidence is up and Wall Street value has more than doubled since Obama entered office. Wall Street is at its highest point in about a decade. On the other hand Romney wants to bring back the Bush policies on steroids and once again unleash Wall Street but shut down Sesame Street. I'd say Romney is the one out of touch with the American people.
That pie chart could also double as the liberal perception of topics in the debate by importance.
To the President's credit, he was the clearest ever on his economic philosophy in the debate. I finally understand his viewpoint.
Here is a good reference for unemployment:
www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts
@TheTheologiansCafe - [I am talking about the average over the last 4 years. In fact, it is really 9% if you take his 4 year average. ]
Who would honestly discuss unemployment in those terms? It would be like a tycoon losing every cent of his money and then declaring "I am work 1.5 million dollars [and by that, I mean I have 0 dollars, but I had an average net worth of 1.5 million dollars over the last 18 years]."
You are ignoring nearly 31 straight months of job growth under Obama, an ongoing trend. Unemployment went from ~10.5% to 7.8% during Obama's term, despite companies undergoing historic liquidations and restructuring in 2007-2009, making huge payroll cuts, and losing most of their investments and capital; and despite the Republicans blocking the American Jobs Act, which was projected to add between 1.9 and 2.6 million jobs.
You also can't conveniently pretend that Bush's policies went out of effect in 2007. Obama's first economic policies entered into full force in the second quarter of 2009, and within several months, unemployment began steadily declining and has continued to decline every single month since then. Similarly, the economic collapse began, at the latest, in 2007, before the Democrats controlled Congress and before they could "ram" economic legislation through. Furthermore, it's become a general consensus among practicing economists that the the economic collapse was primarily caused by pro-deregulation policies (including derivatives regulation) promulgated primarily by conservatives in the past, which Alan Greenspan and other prominent conservatives admitted during the government's investigation into the collapse.
Facts are troublesome things.
@FringeChristian@revelife - Romney is only promising to do what the CBO and others have projected the economy will do already: generate 12 million new jobs. Why would anyone take his unsubstantiated promise over a president who had the second longest streak of sustained job growth in modern American history?
And let's be frank here: you have absolutely no idea what Romney plans to do to create jobs beyond the most superficial and nebulous principals he has espoused during this campaign (which have changed drastically between the Republican primaries and now). If you vote for Romney under the pretense that he will create more jobs, you are voting based on some combination of (1) anti-Obama sentiment and (2) faith-based ignorance.
You have absolutely no idea what he will deliver, and his only unsubstantiated promise is to do (at best) what Obama will already likely achieve.
@UTRow1 - Your comment comes across as presumptive. I agree that the President is a known quantity and candidate Romney has a lot to prove.
I am so sick of all the Lies and half truths that come out of this mans mouth. I am really thinking of moving back to Canada if ROM-ney gets in the White house. Obama 2012!
@TheTheologiansCafe - a lil perspective from a multilingual reader, World's unemployment rates:
China 4.6%
Cuba 1.4 %
Spain 25.3%
England 8.3%
Canada 8%
Germany 6.8%
Venezuela 8.2%
Guatemala 4.1% (this is my country)
Mexico 5.4%
As said, just a lil perspective.
@xXxlovelylollipop - difference with Canada and the US is Canada takes care of those who cannot work VS here where they blame them for being lazy. It's a real shame.
@Ikwa - yeh most countries do that, social security is for most countries the very first thing...individualistic pragmatic mentallity is too cold hearted to care for those vulnerable ones among their people. A real shame indeed </3
@FringeChristian@revelife - I wasn't being presumptive, I was undermining two implications of your comment (1) that Obama's policies, past or present, are as vague as Romney's are--they're not; and (2) the unemployment rate somehow reflects negatively on Obama's economic policies.
@UTRow1 - When you speak to "implications" instead of what is written or linked, that comes across as presumptive.
@FringeChristian@revelife - Maybe if you wrote more carefully your comments wouldn't have undesired implications.