June 10, 2013

  • Republicans Don’t Get To Complain

    Let me be very clear what I’m talking about here. It’s not all Republicans, and there are plenty of Democrats/Independents/etc who aren’t exempt. But if you supported George W. Bush’s Patriot Act bullshit, you don’t get to cry foul now just because it happens to be a black Democrat doing it (I know that for some people his skin color has nothing to do with this outcry… but admit it, for some people it’s the main reason).


    I know race can be a factor because this exists.

    That being said, the people who should be complaining about the horrible shit Obama’s doing. Dropping bombs on poor brown countries with a few potential terrorists in them (I’d like to see that rational work its magic if we suspect terrorists of being hunkered down in France), cracking down on legal medical marijuana dispensaries (why aren’t all the “state’s rights” advocates getting their panties in a twist for that?), invading our privacy on a level that makes George W Bush look like he opened a few pieces of his neighbor’s mail on accident. The liberal democrats and independents have every right to be in an uproar about this, yet they are remaining disconcertingly quiet in the mainstream. The left-of-center people who are making a vocal ruckus about this are painted as a fringe element, not worthy of having their ideas truly considered and scrutinized, just dismissed outright. It’s even worse if they’re part of the Washington machine, in which case they’re told to sit down, shut up, and get the fuck back in line with the rest of the quivering-in-their-boots Democrat rank and file.

    Sure, the media has no qualms calling out Obama on scandals; just normally not the ones that matter. I mean, we’ve learned that the IRS targeting wasn’t exclusive to conservatives, and the only time it was it was about six levels below the president. Benghazi was a tragedy, but would more accurately be caused by Republican-sponsored, bipartisan-endorsed, Obama-independent cuts to embassy security. These are bullshit, smoke and mirrors, “non-alcoholic” scandals. Sure, Fox News, when you are discussing Benghazi it looks like Obama’s driving with a beer in his hand, but on closer inspection it turns out he’s not actually doing anything wrong. Of course, by reporting on this you’re missing the bigger story of the Walter White quantities of meth in the trunk of his car.

    Obama is bombing hundreds of innocent people to kill a handful of people who are probably guilty, or probably will be guilty at some point, all by remote control. He’s spying on journalists, he’s spying on politicians, he’s spying on you and me. It’s 100% totally fucked, but nobody who is in a position to do something about it seems to care. Sure, he’s taken baby steps to promote gay rights, enact health care reform, and promote equal pay; but pretty much all of that has been meager half-measures that in no way balance out the Bush Jr bullshit we elected him to be the countermeasure to.

    Democrats need to sack up and call this bullshit out. I’ve said that Republicans don’t get to bitch about this, and it’s true. You’re the ones who opened up the Pandora’s Box of extended executive powers, so you don’t get to play the victim card because the person using those powers now is someone you don’t like. The only way you get a pass on the righteous indignation here is if you admit that you’re mad at Obama for doing what you cheered George W Bush for doing first, and agree that everything should be done to reign in these executive powers again, and keep them reigned in… no matter who’s in office.


    In some ways, it’s like you never left.

Comments (12)

  • If political party affiliation were any more meaningful than is rooting for one’s favorite sports team, there would be mass outrage.

  • That last meme is quite apt.

         I take exception to the term “Obama is bombing hundreds of innocent people.” It isn’t as if DC-10s and laying waste to entire suburbs of Abu Dhabi, or even cruise missles leveling a few city blocks. These are small, remote controled planes with a limited payload intended to minimize collateral damage. Do innocent people die? Of course. But in lawless and corrupt countries, is there a more effective, less intrusive way of dispensing justice? I doubt boots-on-the-ground or special forces would be more effective/less intrusive.

  • Here’s what I think. I understand peoples’ concerns about the gathering of phone records and overseas internet data but there has been a lot of knee-jerk jumps to conclusions, many of which have been cleared up already. Take the gathering of phone data. Conversations are not being recorded. That still requires court approved wiretap warrants and can only happen in real time. Phone companies do not record our conversations so that information is simply not there to be handed over. What is being gathered is which numbers called which numbers and the duration of the phone calls. There are no names connected to the phone numbers in the data being collected. The database just sits there untouched and there is Congressional and Judicial oversight to make sure of that.  If there is reasonable cause to believe someone is actively involved in either carrying out or planning an act of terror the court is asked for a warrant to investigate the telephone numbers of that person. If possible a wiretap might be permitted by the court just as would be the case in a criminal organized crime investigation. Even if actually conversations could be recorded en mass and kept in a database it would be virtually impossible to listen to everyone’s phone calls and read everyone’s text messages. Which brings me to internet data collection. It would be virtually impossible to read everyone’s emails, blogs, comments, in-game texting, etc. and it is illegal to do so although the Supreme Court has said there is a reasonable question as to whether or not what we put online belongs to the public domain. The Supreme Court has decided for now that it doesn’t but left the door open, it seems. I’m deeply relieved to know the NSA is not reading my puns. 

    Then there’s Rand Paul who never let’s facts get in the way of what he wants to tell his base. Even yesterday he was still complaining about the government listening to our phone calls and reading our emails in spite of the fact everyone else knows this is not the case. 

    Compare what the government has been doing to what private companies are doing. Companies have been gathering personal information about us for decades. Something recent is the growing use of facial recognition technology by firms to further gather information about us. Imagine you stop to look at a window display or a mannequin wearing clothing that catches your eye. There is a growing probability that your face is being recorded without your knowledge and put into some company’s database to be scrutinized and added to all the other data that has been gathered about you. There are already stores that use the technology. The moment you enter a store that uses the technology your face is captured and added to a database. In my opinion what companies are doing is far more concerning further reaching than what the government is doing and there is a big difference between the two. Companies do this to profit from us. The government is doing this to protect us from terrorism and the data collected has helped thwart terrorist attacks. One thwarted was a plan to bomb the NYC Subway System. 

    Think back several weeks to the Boston Marathon bombing. Phone records were quickly gathered to determine within days who else might have been involved in some way. There is also a hypocrisy to be pointed out here. Almost immediately after the bombing people were asking, “Why did the FBI not know ahead of time? Why wasn’t the FBI tapping the phone calls of the two bombers?” It’s a case of your damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Imagine if there were numbers of successfully carried out terrorist attacks on U.S. soil. People would be demanding to know why more was not done to prevent them. 

    As for drone attacks it is horrible that innocent people are killed but what is the better alternative? Nearly a million Iraqi civilians were killed or forced into refugee status. Going to all out war with a country because it harbors terrorists is not a good solution as we learned from Iraq. Iraq is a mess right now. Nothing was accomplished at the expense of life and treasure. In getting Bin Laden President Obama made the risky decision of sending in a Navy Seal Team in helicopters across Pakistan. He did so because a drone would definitely have caused collateral damage as the compound was situated within a civilian neighborhood. Anyone who remembers Carter’s decision to send helicopters into Iran to rescue hostages there understands the great risk. Sending a Seal Team into many of these situations is highly dangerous even with the element of surprise at our backs and to do so as the standard modus operandi to the point terrorists would remain on the lookout is not an option. We could do nothing but then when the terrorist attacks start getting through to U.S. soil you know people are going to be asking why more wasn’t done to prevent them. 

    I cannot think of a less costly short-term solution for fighting terrorism and we’ve hit Al Qaeda hard with these drone strikes. Over the long term diplomacy is the only real best option and not making enemies but then this has to be considered on the last point. During the 1980s we under Reagan aided Bin Laden in Afghanistan, supplying his Taliban with weaponry and training. He bit the hand that fed him. There were other issues involved but that’s too much to go into here. 

  • @McScarry - While I’m pragmatic in understanding that killing people is necessary to keep our country safe, and that civilian casualties are sometimes inevitable (an argument, as I said before, would not fly if we were doing this in France or Canada), but some of these targets are only suspected of possibly planning things. That’s like reading my blog and Twitter feed and thinking I’m conspiring to cause violence to the GOP.

  • If you are wondering why there isn’t a peep, it is the fact that the two parties are one. When Americans wake up to this, it will be a great day. Unfortunately, I fear that day will be when we are all the slaves of the govt. Why not repeal the tax acts of 1913 and 1943 and call it a day? Oops! That would mean we would get to keep our wages and not support their nutty whims (can we all say man caves???) Oh, and I guess there’s that lil problem with the govt. employees owing $3.4 billion in back taxes. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/thousands-federal-workers-owe-back-taxes-231332510.html  (My feel-good piece of the day.)

    As far as Bush opening Pandora’s box, it goes back way farther than that. The problem is that we have a society that is apathetic about their freedom, and so what should be pummeled is promulgated.

  • I have to take issue with the statement that we are going after brown people. What we are going after are terrorist cells believed to be planning acts of terrorism against the U.S. and our allies. Bangladesh is a country of brown skinned people with a majority Muslim population. We don’t launch drones there. India has a sizable Muslim population populated mostly by brown skinned people. Sri Lanka is another. There’s Oman, Dubai, Kuwait, The Maldives and many other countries whose populations are largely made up of brown skinned people and many of those with a majority Muslim population. We do not launch drone attacks on countries like France or Canada as examples because those countries have their own domestic anti-terrorism task forces and at least some if not all of the countries in which we launch drone attacks we do so with permission from those countrys’ governments.  

  • I don’t understand why Conservatives hate Obama so much.  He seems to be more Republican than Bush.

  • Don’t look a gift horse in the mouth. People speaking out against the patriot act is a good thing.  The fact that partisan democrats are now rushing to defend Obama on every point just shows that the two-party system is broken, IMO, which is really a separate issue.  We can get Patriot Act repealed, I think.  But playing silly games like Democrat vs. Republican will only make it harder. 

  • What stores use facial rec? That would be hideously expensive! If they are doing it to identify you, what database of photos are they using? I think I’ll start wearing a mask. Wait a minute, that may well attract security guards!

    The Internet probably knows more about us than the FBI does. I just got an ad for a gym in Cedar Rapids, IA on a Xangans site—I mentioned that town in a post recently. Creepy.

  • @NeverSubmit - I hate to break it to you, but there is 0 chance that the Patriot Act will be wholly, or even substantially, repealed. There is strong bipartisan support for it in Congress. At best, you can hope for some very narrow repeals or amendments of specific provisions. 

  • @UTRow1 - That is why I am investing time and resources in building up my local Green party.  It’s miles away from national politics, sure, but the way I see it, you can either take action, or you can sit around and do nothing.  Your choice. 

  • I was no fan of George W. Bush, but what he and his administration – and Congress – did is in the past. Expanded powers need not be utilized. If you’re  an older teenager and your folks leave you alone for the weekend with a fully stocked ice box, it doesn’t mean you have to eat everything in the ice box. We have expanded spying and surveillence tecniques, along with laws that allow us to employ them. Do we have to spy on everyone just because we can? Are we safer that way? Hardly. Do we have to employ drones because we can? No, we don’t.

    Ok. I should of said I really, really. really don’t like Dubya. But he isn’t the Prez, and he isn’t calling the shots. We can’t lay today at the feet of yesterday.

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