June 14, 2012

  • Depression is not Sadness

    Note: I did not write this. But I have been dealing with issues similar to this for some time now, and this sums up my feelings on the matter much more succinctly that I ever could. I also think it's a message people need to hear and understand, so I am passing it on to you right now:

    Yesterday I came across the story of Junior Seau, an NFL linebacker who committed suicide on May 2. He shot himself in the chest and was found in his home by his girlfriend. Although little is known of Seau’s mental health leading up to his death, he had apparently suffered from insomnia for the last seven years of his life.

    Sportswriter Chris McCosky wrote a beautiful column in the Detroit News about Seau’s death and continuing ignorance about depression and suicide. In the column, McCosky shares his own experiences with depression and suicidal thoughts and laments how difficult it is to explain them to people. He notes, as I’ve noted before, that one common reaction that non-depressed people have is to wonder what the hell we have to be so sad about. He writes, “It’s almost impossible to talk about it to regular people (bosses, spouses, friends). They can’t fathom how somebody in good physical health, with a good job, with kids who love them, who seems relatively normal on the outside, can be terminally unhappy.”

    The unbearable frequency at which McCosky and I and probably everyone else who tries to talk about depression get this response could be a testament to the fact the most visible symptom of depression is usually sadness. So that’s the one people latch on to: “What do you have to be so sad about?” “Cheer up!” “You have to decide to be happy!”

    Because of the sheer obviousness of our sadness, we’re often forced to try to use it to describe depression. We say that we’re just extremely sad, or unhealthily sad, or a different kind of sad. It’s sadness that never goes away like sadness is supposed to. It’s sadness that’s out of proportion to the troubles that we face in our lives. It’s sadness that we can’t stop thinking about. For those of us with bipolar or cyclothymic disorder, it’s sadness that comes and goes much too quickly.

    And it is. But the truth is that sadness actually has very little to do with depression, except that it is one of its many possible symptoms.

    Based on the diagnostic criteria for depression, you don’t even need to be chronically sad to be considered “depressed.” Anhedonia, which means losing the ability to feel pleasure from things that you used to enjoy, could be present instead. Under the formal DSM-IV definition, you must have at least five of nine possible symptoms to have major depression–and one of the five must be either depressed mood or anhedonia–and only one of those symptoms involves sadness. (If you so some very basic math, you will notice that this means that two people, both of whom officially have major depression, might only have one symptom in common. Weird, huh?)

    So, even if your particular depression does include sadness, it’ll only be one of many other symptoms. The others might be much more painful and salient for you than the sadness is. Some people can’t sleep, others gain weight, some think constantly about death, others can’t concentrate or remember anything. Many lose interest in sex, or food, or both. Almost everyone, it seems, experiences a crushing fatigue in which your limbs feel like stone and no amount of sleep ever helps. Then there are headaches, stomachaches, and so on.

    So, depression doesn’t necessarily mean sadness to us. (And, a gentle reminder to non-depressed folks: being sad doesn’t mean you’re “depressed,” either.)

    Depression is not sadness; it’s an illness that often, though not always, involves sadness. No amount of happy things will make a depressed person spontaneously recover, and, usually, no amount of sad things will make a well-adjusted person with good mental health suddenly develop depression. (Grief, of course, is another matter.) And sadness, on its own, does not cause suicide.

    We need to start talking about mood disorders as disorders, not as emotional states. McCosky writes:

    Junior Seau wasn’t sad when he pointed that gun to his chest. He wasn’t being a coward. He wasn’t being selfish. He was sick. I wasn’t sad when I thought about swerving into on-coming traffic on Pontiac Trail some 20 years ago. I was sick.

    What he’s saying is that people don’t kill themselves because they’re sad. They kill themselves because they have an illness that, among other things, makes them feel sad. It also makes them feel like their life is worthless, like they’re a burden to others, like death would be easier, and all the other beliefs that lead people down the path to suicide.

    There is a tendency, I think, to assume that people are depressed because they are sad. A better way to look at it is that people are sad because they are depressed. That’s why, even if we could “turn that frown upside down!” and “just look on the sunny side!” for your benefit, it would do absolutely no good. The depression would still be there, but in a different form.

    Junior Seau did not leave a suicide note, so only God knows what he was thinking when he died. I would guess, though, that he was thinking about much more than just being sad.

Comments (28)

  • Thank you.

    Since they first started hawking anti-depressants, I have observed that no one ever says "I'm sad" anymore.
    It's ALWAYS "I'm depressed". Or I'm having a MAJOR depression.

    Once upon a time, "depression" was defined as a prolonged, inappropriate feeling of sadness." The key there is "inappropriate". If you have a difficult life, and are constantly facing challenges, you will occasionally be sad. Sadness can be an APPROPRIATE response to shit happening to you. Depression is when you fall into a funk because you broke a nail...or ran out of Pepsi...or when you can't feel ANY other emotion.

    Junior's story is a sad one...a cautionary tale along the lines of Richard Corey...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euuCiSY0qYs

  • I like this a lot. My brother suffers from depression, and when I was younger, I did often wonder what he had to be sad about, but more than that, I often felt guilty because it seemed like my love and friendship wasn't enough to make him happy and that there was something more I should be doing to help. As I've grown and learned more about depression, I understand the situation much better and have asked him what, if anything, he'd like me to do when he's hitting a rough time. Usually it's just sitting with him and watching some stupid TV show. :) But anyway, this is a cool post. I think depression is a thing a lot of people don't know a ton about.

  • Very valuable post, thank you for sharing it.

  • Promise me you'll hold an intervention if I ever lose interest in sex or food 

  • I'm reccing this because I need to read the whole article.

    I'd rec it even if I hadn't. I have commentary on this, but I'll likely save it for when I have more time.

  • Anyone who has suffered from depression can attest to this. Sadness isn't nearly as bad because you can grovel in self pity. Had my bouts and sadness doesn't describe it. Pain and lack of any feelings other than pain is the best way to describe it. 

  • This is a good post on the subject, in my opinion. When I had post-partum depression, the biggest thing I struggled with were the times that I felt absolutely nothing...just complete numbness. No enjoyment from anything. Sadness is a symptom but is not always present in depression.

  • Sometimes, I would LOVE to just be 'sad' instead of the horrible depression-type feelings.

  • I'm sorry to hear you've had issues like this. Hang in there!

  • when feelings like this wouldn't go away I went to my Natural Dr, she looked at my iris did other Dr like things & put me on two things one was an amino acid complex called SAM-e (second time to talk about it today). I take the Now brand at 400mg x 3-6 a day. it helps! I am not joking it's like the sun comes out. The other was an heavy metal detox... apparently a lot of ppl that fight depression have heavy metal toxin issues. I personally think there is a way to be well. I think when the body & spirit are "clean" you can heal & be & Stay well.

  • Good post about depression. I have several friends who either suffer from it now or have in the past and it truly is different for everyone. Mood disorders are confusing... 

    PS: I love this comic, and you should too: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2011/10/adventures-in-depression.html

  • I'm back.

    That McCosky quote is really powerful, and so, so true. If people looked at physical disorders the same way they looked at mental ones, the world would be truly heartless and scary. Except that it's not as obvious, but rather eats at people internally, like a parasite that feeds on your very motivation, ability to feel, and will to live.

  • Good post! I differentiate sadness and depression by saying: I am feeling depressed, which means I am feeling sad or down, but this feeling lifts. If I am having the feeling for a long while, like a week to a month, I say I am depressed. I have never said I am feeling clinically depressed, because I would have to be diagnosed and would have to suffer from it for 6 months and it would have to affect my every day life (inability to function daily tasks and do my job). Still, it might be better to say I am feeling sad, so others do not get confused (who might not know the differences). I do have a frined who suffers from depression, and is clincally diagnosed. My sadness is far different from her depression, thats for sure.

  • Hey there! Thank you for linking to my post! I'm glad your readers like it. :)

  • I always said "I'm depressed" then somebody said "you mean you're sad." Pissed me off till I thought it over realized it was true, it was a sad mood that lasted a short time, had a few of those.  And right, never occurred to me to off my self due to a bout of sadness.

  • Yes, this is absolute truth. I don't know if it's something that can be explained to someone that has not experienced it, but this was a good attempt.

  • That was a sad story.
    Nice to meet you here.

    So upset and ridiculous, PDF splitter, PDF split

  • i read the book called generation me, and it said that the natural way to cure depression was eating food with omega something (found in salmon), at least an hour of sunlight everyday, communicating with people in reality (like face to face). i think it said volunteer but my head is probably mixed up with other info. idk if she meant sadness in reality. 

    great post!

  • to guy who wrote it i mean

  • Junior Seau was one of my favorite players growing up. It broke my heart when I heard he committed suicide, because he was one of the nicest people I'd ever gotten to meet.

  • Thank you for this post!  There is usually something cathartic about sadness which is not present in depression (ie. sadness has a clear cause and follows a process and usually lessens after a time).

  • Sad is such weak word to describe it. Depression has been part of my existence for almost thirty years and I never felt it was that simple. 'Sad' goes away. It heals eventually. Depression is the feeling of having a pit open up around you and swallow you in blackness while you apathetically become a part of it. You welcome the blackness because it shuts out the pain. Making yourself a sandwich is too much effort and it doesn't matter anyway because you feel too sick, doomed and undeserving of nourishment.

    Eventually there will be an end to sadness. The problem that caused it will be solved, the broken relationship mended or gotten over, a new job will come along. Depression waits patiently in the background; lurking under the surface of your being for the chance to emerge, often triggered by nothing. Then it manifests itself as an outward show of sadness because for awhile that's all you're able to emote (which is why those outside of it think it's all just about being a little 'sad') or worse - rage. The extent to which it fucks with your life and relationships is overwhelming, descriptions of the situation, inadequate.

    It has to be experienced to be understood.

  • The way I understand it thanks to my useless psychology degree is that depression is more completely summarized as a motivational problem than as a sadness problem.  I think that's why they have to put labels on SSRI medications that say that SSRIs may increase risk of suicide.  It's because unfortunately some people with depression are too unmotivated to act upon thoughts of suicide and the increased level of motivation tips the balance the other way.  It's one huge argument for using medication alongside cognitive/behavioral therapy in the treatment of depression.

  • @brokenleaf - Also, if someone is misdiagnosed with clinical depression, SSRIs could easily cause what they were trying to cure by fucking up your serotonin levels when they were fine in the first place. 

  • Thank you for posting this. This is the Truth, and so nicely put. I have had people tell me to 'cheer up' and it makes me want to punch them in the mouth. Repeatedly.

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